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[digby69]

Everyone each time.

[Not...Mordin]

I lost Mordin and he was my favourite (tried to call me gay lol) on my first playthrough

2nd time i lost tali sent her to be my tech specialist what happened she got shot in the head and i had romanced her to so it was rather tragic though my sheps didnt show it (he's ruthless)

3rd time was the charm got all my people through

4th time i went on a killing spree and saw how many people i could get killed (best part was seeing thane get impaled he thought i was his friend as if alien scum )

Modifié par Not...Mordin, 26 mars 2010 - 10:07 .

[john385]

Everyone survived.

I just picked the right person for each job.

Mordin is a chemis/biologist, not a tech expert, Legion is #1 choice for that job, Tali probably second.

You must chose a good leader for the second team (Miranda #1 choice).

As for a biotic, Samara/Miranda/Jack.

Send your "weak ones" to escort the people (Tali, Mordin...)

On the final run, take your best OFFENSIVE guys (like Zaeed and Thane), and leave good DEFENDERS behind (Grunt, Zaeed, even though they can serve as offensive , too). For example, Garrus was able to hold his base in Omega for a long time without dying against huge attacks...that accounts for something.

[Puppet Doctor]

Well I don't remember for every playthrough but my first playthrough Mordin died.



I failed at Thane's and Tali's loyalty missions in my first playthrough and sent Legion to Cerberus because I was renegade. Then when they mentioned a tech specialist I didn't want to send Tali into the ducts because she wasn't loyal so I figured I would send Mordin.



Also my whole crew died because I took my time going to the Omega 4 Relay and then being Renegade didn't send any escort with them.



My second, third and fourth playthrough everybody survived. My fifth playthrough I wanted to kill Tali and succeded but then accidentally picked Miranda for the biotic shield and Jack got taken by a pile of bugs.

[Bugsie]

1st playthrough - Samara, Jack and all the crew died

2nd playthrough - Thane died

Wondering if its worth going back and playing ME1 to get the starting bonuses, if it really has any effect at all, or start from a fresh Shep without ME1 baggage?

[Qwepir]

nikki191 wrote...

it still confuses me how people manage to loose team members on that mission. you do all the loyalty missions and select the most logical people for each part.

Well, Jacob and Miranda volunteer themselves for the Tubes/Barrier parts, but they're incapable of doing those even when loyal.

[Qwepir]

Puppet Doctor wrote...
I failed at Thane's and Tali's loyalty missions in my first playthrough and sent Legion to Cerberus because I was renegade.

Also my whole crew died because I took my time going to the Omega 4 Relay and then being Renegade didn't send any escort with them.

That's not renegade, that's Chaotic Stupid. Just because you want to play renegade doesn't mean you need to pick every single renegade option that shows up.

[Baris]

First playthrough: Everybody but Miranda survived.

Second playthrough: Everybody survived.

Third playthrough: Everybody but half the crew and err wait... Zaeed, Samara, Tali, Jacob and Jack survived. One depressing suicide mission it was.

[caradoc2000]

nikki191 wrote...

it still confuses me how people manage to loose team members on that mission. you do all the loyalty missions and select the most logical people for each part.

It is not enough. Surgeon general's warning: missing weapon upgrades can cause loss of life.

I lost Tali, Grunt and Zaeed on my first playthrough.

[Bebbe777]

Everyone survived, including the Normandy crew.



My choices



Tech: Legion

Leader: Garrus

Biotic: Jack

Leader 2: Garrus

Escort: Tali

Boss Team: Miranda & Mordin

[GodWood]

Unless you're intentionally trying to screw up I don't see how you could not save everyone.

[Baris]

GodWood wrote...

Unless you're intentionally trying to screw up I don't see how you could not save everyone.

If you don't import a ME1 character, you might have a hard time having enough rene/para points to end some conflicts in the game - esp. if it's your first playthrough and you don't know this beforehand. That's what happened to me with Miranda.

But other than that, it's true. It's a lot harder to lose squadmates than keeping them alive during the 'suicide mission'.

[MuLepton]

nikki191 wrote...

it still confuses me how people manage to loose team members on that mission. you do all the loyalty missions and select the most logical people for each part.

Weeeell... I lost Tali on the first go, and was pretty stumped why. Turns out Samara isn't a good choice as leader of the fire squad, even though you're told you need someone who can lead through experience (she's got about thousand of years of that) and Miranda even says "disciplined and experiences, good choice". As contrast she just says "well, at least he knows what he's doing" when you select Garrus, who's one of the "right" choices.

Yes, in hindsight it's a bit more obvious, since Justicars mostly work alone (although not always, and Samara was part of mercenary troops in the past). But the game doesn't really give you a hint that she's a worse choice than Garrus, Jacob or Miranda.

That being said, it was kind of frustrating to lose Tali and not really know why, so I cheated and looked it up. Astonishingly, I didn't lose anybody afterwards

[DiatribeEQ]

Paragon: Soldier w/Miranda as LI = All Live

Paragon: Soldier w/Tali as LI = All Live

Paragon: Adept w/Tali as LI = All Live

Paragon: Infiltrator in progress



Wonder what the end result is going to be? Hmmmm...I wonder.... lulz

[InvaderErl]

Everyone but Mordin survived my first playthrough and I lost all of the crew except for the good doctor.

[Wild Still]

I lost Jack, Zaeed and Legion. Two of those were due to loyalty feuds, putting Zaeed in charge of the decoy team was unwise in hindsight, he doesn't have the best history of leadership...



That was my first run anyway.

[Mresa]

Everyone except my crew. Darn how the ship felt empty after that....

[Raphael diSanto]

Baris wrote...

GodWood wrote...

Unless you're intentionally trying to screw up I don't see how you could not save everyone.

If you don't import a ME1 character, you might have a hard time having enough rene/para points to end some conflicts in the game - esp. if it's your first playthrough and you don't know this beforehand. That's what happened to me with Miranda.

But other than that, it's true. It's a lot harder to lose squadmates than keeping them alive during the 'suicide mission'.

That's very true. I decide who is or isn't going to survive before going after the reaper IFF. Actually, I decide the final survival roster before starting anyone's loyalty missions, and I make sure I have the right people loyal, etc.

Then I make decisions about who I'm going o send in each role based on who I want to live.

There's a couple of nice places where you can be guaranteed to kill off individuals, based on how you want the ending to be.

First place, tech expert - This is a good spot to kill someone off. Just make a bad choice as the fire team leader and the tech expert will die, so you can put a sacrificial lamb in there, nice and easy
Second place, second fire team leader - A bad choice here will kill the character you put in this role, so that's another guaranteed death.
Third place - Biotic barrier. Just don't pick a loyal Samara or Jack, and take Miranda with you in your team. Miranda can't die before the final speech (even if unloyal) so that will ensure that the 2nd person in your team will get carried off by the seeker swarms
Fourth place - final battle. Non-loyal crewmates (even Miranda) will die here.

But Baris is right - you definitely have to do some loyalty and role-juggling to make sure the people you want to die die. I have a bunch of different playthroughs, and out of all of them, I have only 2 where everyone survive. I simply decide ahead of time what makes sense for the story and for that particular shepard, and then make sure that happens.

[DarthCaine]

Everyone

[CrazyCatDude]

First run through, Jack wasn't loyal, so I picked Samara for the Barrier. Tali was the obvious choice for Tech Specialist, and Garrus was the obvious choice for fire team leader. I took Samara and Thane for the final fight, on the logic that Samara was tired after doing the Barrier, and Thane was an Assassin, not a hold the line type. My logic apparently worked, because everyone walked away. I've shifted a bit, here and there. On playthrough's where Jack is loyal, I'll use her for the Barrier. I've used Legion for Squad leader. No one but Garrus ever commands the second team. I figure, of all of them, he's the only proven leader. Sure, his squad died, but that was a betrayal from within, not a mistake in tactical or strategic thinking.

[Raphael diSanto]

CrazyCatDude wrote...

First run through, Jack wasn't loyal, so I picked Samara for the Barrier. Tali was the obvious choice for Tech Specialist, and Garrus was the obvious choice for fire team leader. I took Samara and Thane for the final fight, on the logic that Samara was tired after doing the Barrier, and Thane was an Assassin, not a hold the line type. My logic apparently worked, because everyone walked away. I've shifted a bit, here and there. On playthrough's where Jack is loyal, I'll use her for the Barrier. I've used Legion for Squad leader. No one but Garrus ever commands the second team. I figure, of all of them, he's the only proven leader. Sure, his squad died, but that was a betrayal from within, not a mistake in tactical or strategic thinking.

Interesting - You've used Legion as squad leader and no one died? Which squad leader are you referring to there?

[The Governator]

Everone

Everyone but Mordin

Everyone



Have not started my fourth game yet.

[dyrebar-]

First playthrough: Crew+chakwas. It was supposed to be a suicide mission, so I wasnt going to rush after my crew or "waste" escort for chakwas. The world was at stake goddammit.

2nd: Only crew died.

3rd: Guessing all, since the choices seems so obvious unless you want people to die.



Might do some loading so i get to see some people dying

[ebidebby]

Everyone survived, despite the fact that Jack and Zaeed were not loyal.