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[JaylaClark]

Haexpane wrote...

Yrkoon wrote...

 
   2) the unusually high price.

Since when is $40 for a 30 hour long single player game "unusually high"?

Skipping the debate over currency to say, it's only unusually high when compared to Dragon Age itself -- 50 to 60 US dollars got you about twice that much gameplay per playthrough.  Still, ME1, ME2, and such had ... by my experience, about thirty hours of gameplay, though they both have their incentives for replaying... still, maybe it's insanely low for DA:O.

[DoDadds]

Yrkoon wrote...

DoDadds wrote...

Yrkoon wrote...

Lady light doorbell wrote...

Yrkoon wrote...
But since Australian pricing is not the standard we use here, your arguments really don't affect the point whatsoever.

Ahh but don't you see wit when you see it. You did say $40

Correct.  I said $40.  Not AU$ 40.

Go bore someone else with your   pointless    semantics lawyer-speak, now.

I wouldn't think an Aussie would refer to their dollars as AU$ 40 when speaking to another Aussie just are Americans don't refer to our dollars as US$ 40. Just because you posed a poor is not a reason to get bent out of shape. Notice how the forum doesn't show the location of the poster?

Please stop making Americans look bad.

WTF.   We were discussing the fact that  Awakenings  was $40.  Why in the world would anyone assume we were speaking in Austrialian currency, when Awakenings was NOT $40 in Australia anyway?


And by the way, about making "Americans look bad", you are the last person to talk.  Mr. "I hate Canadians because they talk differently".  lol 

When exactly did I say I hate Canadians?

Oh you must mean in my example of a flawed argument that presents no constructive criticism. Ah silly me, I guess it was a bit much to ask some people to discern between a fictional situation used to illustrate a point and a statement of fact.

Prime example of quote mining.

[Frank the Running Bugzepel]

*silent clap* Wow Yrkoon you seem to have no sense humor at all (Your avatar is a clear indication of this). I knew that when you said $40 you meant in US dollars. But you have to make your self look bad by giving a flawed argument. Pricing does not indicate the level of content. There are games that cost a lot but aren't worth buying because it has too little content and there are games that you have constantly fork out cash just to keep on playing but is it any good when it comes to content. A little fact; this is a global forum, which means that there are people are around the world and if you don't clear up facts then they don't know what you are talking about. BTW I have bought Awakening and I am enjoying it and it was worth it and just because I haven't register it doesn't mean it doesn't exist. BW is going to release a patch soon anyway so I am glad that I have bought it.

[OneBadAssMother]

For future expansions, my advice to Bioware is to follow the model and standards of Throne of Bhaal. and another worthy expansion but made by a different developer; Blizzard: Starcraft-Brood Wars back in the day. The way expansions should be made - they must become MUST-HAVEs.

[Yrkoon]

Lady light doorbell wrote...

*silent clap* Wow Yrkoon you seem to have no sense humor at all (Your avatar is a clear indication of this). I knew that when you said $40 you meant in US dollars. But you have to make your self look bad by giving a flawed argument. Pricing does not indicate the level of content. 

   A flawed arguement, eh?     Hardly.  And you know it.  Price does indicate length to a  certain extent.  Unless you'd like to argue that  the next $5 DLC could, conceivably,  contain 40-60 hours of content.

Modifié par Yrkoon, 27 mars 2010 - 10:52 .

[edeheusch]

LaughingDragon wrote...


Furthermore, many people are disappointed and feel that the companions available in origins are more memorable and higher quality than in awakenings (IE, compare morrigan or alistair or insert your favorite - to the awakenings cast).

From what I read the majority of people consider that the companions of Awakening are more memorable than in DAO OC.

For the story of Awakening, I found it rather good but as some other people have said the story is a little bit too rushed.

The only thing that I really want is to have quickly a patch that fixes the major bugs of Awakening!
I am in my second playground and it is the second playground where I have a major bug (not even twice the same) although I have never installed any mod to avoid conflict with the official content.
In my first playground I was able to bypass the bug by loading a save made before entering the Silverite mines but, now, in my second playground I suffer from the +100 approval bug with Justice and even by loading a save made before to recruit Justice I cannot avoid it.

Because of this (for me) currently Awakening has no replayability at all as I won’t continue playing before to have a fix.  

[Hyper Cutter]

Haexpane wrote...

Yrkoon wrote...

 
   2) the unusually high price.

Since when is $40 for a 30 hour long single player game "unusually high"?

When it's an expansion to a game at least twice as long that only costs a little more?

Also, it's not 30 hours long, either.

[Feraele]

DoDadds wrote...

Feraele

Hah! I don't really hate Canada, just an example of the OP initial argument put in different words to show there is nothing constructive contained within.

Also, I think you just gave me a reason to play through Origins again. No pausing on nightmare? Could be interesting.

Most times..when I post its "tongue-in-cheek"..nothing serious there.    I was just poking fun.

And yeah..no pausing on Nightmare, when I get good enough,  I'll be doing that one

[Feraele]

Eli-da-Mage wrote...

I myself found the combat and companions fine and since i am engaged im pretty sure i can go without romance in a game

I am married...have been married for many many years....what has that got to do with the price of tea in China? ^^

I still like the romances that were included in the original game..WRITTEN into the original game by Bioware.

And no Alistair is NOT hiding under my bed...hehhehe

[Feraele]

Hyper Cutter wrote...

Haexpane wrote...

Yrkoon wrote...

 
   2) the unusually high price.

Since when is $40 for a 30 hour long single player game "unusually high"?

When it's an expansion to a game at least twice as long that only costs a little more?

Also, it's not 30 hours long, either.

Well..for me it turns out to be 23. 57 hours long.   

As the Devs stated...your mileage may vary.

[TJSolo]

Feraele wrote...

Hyper Cutter wrote...

Haexpane wrote...

Yrkoon wrote...

 
   2) the unusually high price.

Since when is $40 for a 30 hour long single player game "unusually high"?

When it's an expansion to a game at least twice as long that only costs a little more?

Also, it's not 30 hours long, either.

Well..for me it turns out to be 23. 57 hours long.   

As the Devs stated...your mileage may vary.

Hence how it is unusually high and seemingly priced based off the longest possible play through time, not the median. Add to the issue the unusual high price only applies to the US digital, US disc, and UK PS3 versions all cost 40 bucks US even thought some of them are digital products not facing the higher cost physical media has.. The UK PC version has a price of £19.99 and 360 for £25.99; ($25 - $33)
 The $40 price tag is very unusual.

[worksa8]

I don't think Bioware really cares what any of the players want. Honestly, I'm not even bashing, I just think they have their own vision and the reat of us can go to hell xD

[Frank the Running Bugzepel]

Yrkoon wrote...
 A flawed arguement, eh?  Hardly.  And you know it.  Price does indicate length to a  certain extent.  Unless you'd like to argue that  the next $5 DLC could, conceivably,  contain 40-60 hours of content.

This is the last time I'm post on this discussion then I'm off for good, but I have to say that BW did say that this expansion is not to be compaired with price = hours of gameplay. You can go and see the interviews and they all say pretty much the same thing. When DA:O came out people said they finished in 13 hours, with all the skips were as others played over 100 hours, same thing with Awakening. If you are not happy with the pricing, first complain with the store, if you are not satisfied make a complaint  to EA (yeah EA) and if you are not satisfied then complain to FTC rather than complaining on the forum. BW does not make the prices, the marketing and pricing team does (it is the publishers who price the products, which is EA) and with taxes and commissions that is how your games are priced on the counter in the store.

[TexasAggie]

Just finished Awakening on Nightmare. It was a great expansion.... totally worth my time and money.


The quest areas / environments (e.g. Kal Hirol, etc.) were equally good or even better than the original game. Also, since you start at a high level, you get to experience your favorite high end spells and talents from the start. In DA:O, you only got a glimpse of it towards the end. Also, if you ignore the abrupt ending part, the last two phases of Awakening (battle and what comes after it) was much better than post Landsmeet part (battle of denerim) of DA:O.


The bugs were there, but nothing game breaking. The companions were more like assistants (not friends), a few of them with great sense of humor. I don't necessarily see it as a bad thing... just another way to do it. Except, they could make Oghren belch less often. 


I think they could have made the nightmare mode tougher than its current state. The final boss was all right, but rest of the game could have been made tougher. The first time I used any healing or lyrium potion was in the final boss fight (playing with Blood Mage, Anders Healer Mage, Sigrun as archer and Oghren as Tank ... not using any of primal aoe spells or death cloud).

So, what does this DA customer want in the future........? More of the same thing. 

Modifié par TexasAggie, 27 mars 2010 - 11:37 .