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[MassEffect762]

Something so simple and yet it was not implemented, blows my mind.

[Vamphuntr]

I'm curious. This was found in the PC code right? If it's in the game and it's not used it's really embarassing.

[Xalena]

There is not letter from Alistair? In my game he is un-kinged and sopouse to rebuild wardens with my mage but I get little mention of him only in the end of Awakening that he rejoined with my char. I wonder where he was all that time? On Highever?

[Brockololly]

I know the devs have never come down firmly on how they are treating continuity in their DA games, but so long as we keep playing as the Warden I'd like to have some measure of continuity between games or expansion packs. Even if its a small thing like a letter from Zevran or Leliana, that would go a long way to make the games feel more connected.

Besides that, it would be nice if our big choices actually had big consequences in the game too- the whole Morrigan ritual seems like that may go some where in the future, but at least in Awakening, the only big consequences you see for your actions are only reflected in the epilogue slides.

[Vamphuntr]

My guess is that they cut it so fans don't complain if they are not present in the next expansion.

[Cat Lance]

I'm still utterly baffled by the fact this was CUT. If they hadn't gotten around to implementing a letter system, or had never written it to begin with that would be one thing, but the fact it WAS written, and WAS in the game, and then they CUT IT BACK OUT blows my freakin mind...the level of wtfery, seriously. *sighs*



I would LOVE to see an explanation on this, or see it corrected in a patch. It is such a tiny thing, but it would have been such a big deal to those who romanced Zevy-baby in Origins. :-/

[Jaulen]

There's a Zev fan group that has been working on some mods...the most notable one to come out was a mod for the ending dialogue from Origins that fixes the 'Zev in love" good bye speech at the gates. As it is now, love or friendly, you get the same speech....but the toolset had different responses if Zevran was flagged in love.

hope someone Mods back in t he Leli and Zev letters.

[Fieryeel]

Whoa...like...whoa.



I was going to buy Awakenings. Seriously, I was going through my wallet and thinking if I should head to the local mall today.



And I saw this thread.



Suddenly I don't feel like purchasing Awakenings anymore.



Despite seeing the dropped ratings, the bugs reported, the multiple complains, I would have thought the very least Bioware could have done for us was to show some continuity to the romances.



I thank you threadstarter, were it not for you, I would have absolutely no idea how badly Bioware was screwing us over.



They actually cut out something like this? I think my money is better spent elsewhere, sorry Bioware.

[Adanu]

Yep... BUDGET PROBLEMS don't effect a simply bunch of text. I don't care what excuse you make for it.



Yes, we want the story to press forward... but the *most* we are treated to is A PARAGRAPH of epilogue for your love interest. There is no excuse for that.



I have Faith in the Bioware of old... I can forgive high expansion cost from voice acting and the like... I can forgive bugs.



This is something that requires TEXT. Give me a reason to think that this isn't just you being lazy Bioware. Please.

[Cat Lance]

Adanu wrote...

Yep... BUDGET PROBLEMS don't effect a simply bunch of text. I don't care what excuse you make for it.

Yes, we want the story to press forward... but the *most* we are treated to is A PARAGRAPH of epilogue for your love interest. There is no excuse for that.

I have Faith in the Bioware of old... I can forgive high expansion cost from voice acting and the like... I can forgive bugs.

This is something that requires TEXT. Give me a reason to think that this isn't just you being lazy Bioware. Please.

See, what boggles me is that it would be laziness if it just hadn't been written, but it was, and then was cut. Which is where my complete confusion is coming from. No matter how I think about it it doesn't make any sense at all.

Even a single letter from the love interests/companions who didn't make it to the expansion would have meant so much to most players. I mean, BioWare fans are pretty much all in agreement on a single point, we love the companions. It's what drives the game for the majority of their market. (Sure, you get the people that want to solo the whole game, and some of them even do it from day one, but even a lot of them either start out by or later on end up doing play throughs with the companions and finding a favourite or two or three or...)

You know?

So, I just am flabbergasted that they'd CUT something like this. I just...gah...it breaks my brain.

[Dokarqt]

Why wasn't this implemented? Im not really a modder but if the letters are already written and in the game code spawning them in the characters inventory would be a super easy task for a professional yes?



That means its either a bug (should be fixed sometime within the next year hopefully) or they actively decided against using them. The latter makes absolutely no sense as all the players would probably love this feature and I cant really see any plausible reasons not to implement them.

[LadyKarrakaz]

This cut is an OUTRAGE ! (goes away cursing fate)

[Fodla]

I am a huge Zevran fan - fun in bed and out and really romantic with the poetry, too. I just couldn't understand why my elf had to go to do something for the wardens without Zevran - at the end of Origins they stayed together and he helped train the wardens, although never becoming one himself. It wouldn't have been too difficult to have some kind of continuity and have the letter, at least - some kind of explanation. Instead I get to briefly see boring Alastair - no compensation, believe me. Also I missed my dog, Diddums, who I would rather have at my side any day then Oghren.

[Arlana Tabris]

Lucy_Glitter wrote...
(snipped the cute letter)
So, why exactly was this cut?

The only explanation I can think of, is that the Devs have some other plans for Zev and Leliana that would not fit into the context of the letter. However, I haven't played Awakening yet, so I don't know exactly what the epilogue says about the romances in both cases and therefore ma be wrong in my assumption.

Modifié par Arlana Tabris, 26 mars 2010 - 09:22 .

[knittzu]

My current theory is that they did it specifically to break our hearts. They read our posts in the threads about no romances and that crude drunk as the returning "favorite" and collectively decided... oh yeah? **** and whine, moan and groan? We'll show you! We're burning your love letters and disposing of your little dog, too!

[Frank the Running Bugzepel]

I know what happened to the letters; the dog ate them;)

Modifié par Lady light doorbell, 26 mars 2010 - 10:56 .

[knittzu]

LOL, Lady light doorbell. And then the poor dog got so sick from the Antivian ink that he had to spend a few week at the doggie hospital. Mystery solved!

[Stormghost]

@ OP



Thanks for posting Leliana's letter. I'll just have to imagine she sent my Warden that letter, and it makes her lack of appearance easier to handle!

[Xalena]

Lady light doorbell wrote...

I know what happened to the letters; the dog ate them;)

and then dog dies because letters were written with Antivan poison...:crying: now everything make sense!

[Skadi_the_Evil_Elf]

Xalena wrote...

There is not letter from Alistair? In my game he is un-kinged and sopouse to rebuild wardens with my mage but I get little mention of him only in the end of Awakening that he rejoined with my char. I wonder where he was all that time? On Highever?

Yeah, this bugs me as well. In most of my games, I don't make him king, even my human noble, and we run off to rebuild the Wardens. So Alistair, who for the longest time, was the only other Grey Warden in Ferelden with you for most of Origins, is suddenly missing/non-existant? I mean, ok, if they couldn't do a non-king Cameo, would a letter or mention of his whereabouts be too much to request?

[bjdbwea]

They even wrote the letter, but cut it. What is that supposed to achieve?

Well, I'm just glad I didn't buy Awakening. Maybe once it hits the budget bin, there will mods that make Awakening the game it should've been. Then I'll think about purchasing it, and BioWare/EA can thank the modders that they get any money.

Modifié par bjdbwea, 27 mars 2010 - 01:00 .

[Lucy Glitter]

Cat Lance wrote...

I'm still utterly baffled by the fact this was CUT. If they hadn't gotten around to implementing a letter system, or had never written it to begin with that would be one thing, but the fact it WAS written, and WAS in the game, and then they CUT IT BACK OUT blows my freakin mind...the level of wtfery, seriously. *sighs*

I would LOVE to see an explanation on this, or see it corrected in a patch. It is such a tiny thing, but it would have been such a big deal to those who romanced Zevy-baby in Origins. :-/

Zevy-baby! *Cries*

Fieryeel wrote...
Suddenly I don't feel like purchasing Awakenings anymore.

Despite seeing the dropped ratings, the bugs reported, the multiple complains, I would have thought the very least Bioware could have done for us was to show some continuity to the romances.

I thank you threadstarter, were it not for you, I would have absolutely no idea how badly Bioware was screwing us over.

They actually cut out something like this? I think my money is better spent elsewhere, sorry Bioware.

If you want a great plot, then you should buy it. The plot in this game is just amazing, I love it. The continuity, isn't.

davidk1991 wrote...

@ OP

Thanks for posting Leliana's letter. I'll just have to imagine she sent my Warden that letter, and it makes her lack of appearance easier to handle!

I had that feeling, too! I felt better knowing my PC had a letter... intended for her.