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Zevran & Leliana letters in Awakening (very upset fans in here!)


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#151
Walina

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I would like to say if any kind soul could put those letters into a mod, I would be really glad because it really feel odd to not have any news about them.

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Lucy Glitter

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When the toolset is updated (hopefully) then I am sure someone will mod this in, in no second flat!

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i fail to understand why these letters were not included. they are there, the person is stationed to give letters to the warden commander. why do we not get letters. a letter from Zevran would have shut me up about so much that i took issue with, a letter, a comment, an acknowledgment of the romance. and in an even odder twist, my male elf rogue got called "love" from Alistair, and a kiss? O_o i'd prefer a letter from Zev, you know, the one i actually romanced, the one who is suppose to love me etc etc etc... granted, the epilogue did a good job of mentioning the romance, but the letters are there!

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Lack of time I suppose. I for one would have preferred waiting more for Awakeninbg and having a better finish than having a flawed extension only a few months after the game release.

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Purple Lady wrote...

Lack of time I suppose. I for one would have preferred waiting more for Awakeninbg and having a better finish than having a flawed extension only a few months after the game release.


i would have much preferred waiting a bit of extra time for a more polished and finished game with more care given to the players choices from Orgins.

Awakenings just feels rushed, from start to finish.

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 Leliana...I usually just call her the Crazy, because she comes across as so bat**** when you first meet her and I've never really bothered to get to know her character because of that.


But it's the good kind of crazy.

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Purple Lady wrote...

Lack of time I suppose. I for one would have preferred waiting more for Awakeninbg and having a better finish than having a flawed extension only a few months after the game release.

Exactly how I feel. D:  I'm sure lots of us definitely would have waited the extra time.

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Why do I see people mentioning DAO 2 at this point? Check this trend:

BG 1 & 2 had 1 expansion each.

NWN 1 & 2 had 2 expansions.

It follows that DAO will have at least 2 expansions.



I too am miffed about this letter issue. No excuse Bioware. If it were a bug I'm sure the devs would be in the process of a patch sooner or later and that someone would mention this being yet another Awakening bug. However no news from Bioware. And forget the saying. No news is NOT good news when one is EXPECTING news.

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CultKiller wrote...

Why do I see people mentioning DAO 2 at this point? Check this trend:
BG 1 & 2 had 1 expansion each.
NWN 1 & 2 had 2 expansions.
It follows that DAO will have at least 2 expansions.


I thought so, too. At least I hope >.< :crying::crying::crying:

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Maybe because the letters make references to what Zevran and Leiliana have been doing... Storylines they don't want to commit to at the moment.


at least you can pretend the letters were sent if you so choose...us US ppl have jack  :(

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Well hey, unless it's an april fools joke (I doubt it, being both unfunny, uncreative, and a bit cruel if so), looks like Leliana may be coming back! Zevran... being less popular... well who knows. But you have hope that you'll get something FAR better then a letter right???

Modifié par Wishpig, 03 avril 2010 - 10:01 .


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Well hey, unless it's an april fools joke (I doubt it, being both unfunny, uncreative, and a bit cruel if so), looks like Leliana may be coming back! Zevran... being less popular... well who knows. But you have hope that you'll get something FAR better then a letter right??




what do you mean?

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Radahldo wrote...

Well hey, unless it's an april fools joke (I doubt it, being both unfunny, uncreative, and a bit cruel if so), looks like Leliana may be coming back! Zevran... being less popular... well who knows. But you have hope that you'll get something FAR better then a letter right??


what do you mean?


Apparently the VA who did Leliana pretty much leaked out that there is a DLC involving Leliana coming at some point. If true it will be interesting to see exactly what it pertains to, I guess another Shale or maybe a side quest if sorts. Kind of wierd that they want to bring an old character back though all things considered.

Modifié par TheMadCat, 03 avril 2010 - 10:47 .


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TheMadCat wrote...

Radahldo wrote...

Well hey, unless it's an april fools joke (I doubt it, being both unfunny, uncreative, and a bit cruel if so), looks like Leliana may be coming back! Zevran... being less popular... well who knows. But you have hope that you'll get something FAR better then a letter right??


what do you mean?


Apparently the VA who did Leliana pretty much leaked out that there is a DLC involving Leliana coming at some point. If true it will be interesting to see exactly what it pertains to, I guess another Shale or maybe a side quest if sorts. Kind of wierd that they want to bring an old character back though all things considered.


From what I've seen Leliana is for some reason (I'll never get why) extremley popular. Every poll I've seen has her at the top. Everyother thread seems to be dedicated to Leliana. And frankly the people have spoken.

I think it would be a very smart move on their part to bring back Leliana as I think it would cut the flaming by at least a quater.

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From what I've seen Leliana is for some reason (I'll never get why)
extremley popular. Every poll I've seen has her at the top. Everyother
thread seems to be dedicated to Leliana. And frankly the people have
spoken.

I think it would be a very smart move on their part to
bring back Leliana as I think it would cut the flaming by at least a
quater.


Oh sure, it's a brilliant move no doubt, ca-ching ca-ching.

It's just funny, wierd, and hypocritical though going back to the various reasons as to why there were so few cameos or why they opted for new companions. Yet, here we are. I understand people are excited and eager and admitingly I'm interested to see what they're doing here. But it feels a little dirty I guess, or maybe that's just me.

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From what I've seen Leliana is for some reason (I'll never get why) extremley popular. 


Dunno guy. Seems Zevran is popular with the ladies, and Leliana with the men. (Heterosexual ones, anyway.) 

Oh sure. Many of the gal gamers are Alistair fans, too, guess it depends on whether they like the good boys or the bad boys. :police:

As for me, well, I tried to win Morrigan's heart on one playthrough. But we all know how that turns out? Or at least has, so far. 

So from that point forward, I tried to win Leliana's heart. First as a male, and then, bonus, as a (bi) female! (OK, I really played my female char to marry Alistair & become Queen, but I couldn't help a bit of flirting with Leli.) 

Come on -- she's cute, she has that lovely French voice, she sings, she's a bad girl gone good, and she has that mixture of vulnerability and neediness that just pulls the heartstrings. Did she really love you? Well in the ending I never got she'll "Romeo & Juliet" herself over you. Now that's devotion. 

OK. So she's a religious nut, a little bit naive for someone with a past as a con artist (or is that still con), not exactly a rocket scientist, and a little bit too valley-girl materialistic with the shopping and the shoes. And she's harder to bed than Morrigan, but once you can get her in the sack, she returns eagerly. 



Love makes us overlook those things. :wub::innocent:

Heh heh. 

Yes I have a real girlfriend and am not living in Mom's basement, but yes, as I think a somewhat normal guy, I enjoy the romance aspect of these games. It's part of the fun of getting lost in that other world. 

#167
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Sure, Lel is the quintessential sweet girl and overall is a pretty interesting character, great background and develops nicely. Personally I found her much more appealing than the stuck up know it all :wub:.

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I think all the romanceables have ample amounts of fanboys and fangirls, actually. How exciting, though! Leliana is so sweet ^___^

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Firinneach has done a mod, which will put the letters into the Awakening. You will now get Leliana's letter at the Keep!
http://www.dragonage...ile.php?id=1053

He intends to add the Zevran letter next and create one for a non-king Alistair.

Modifié par TheGrumpyOne, 11 avril 2010 - 11:59 .


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Lucy Glitter

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How did he manage it? You can't mod Awakening or so I heard.

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Lucy_Glitter wrote...

How did he manage it? You can't mod Awakening or so I heard.


That's what i thought? :blink:

#172
Lucy Glitter

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Bah. When will a patch come out anyway? Grumble grumble.

#173
AndreaDraco

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From the description of the mod, it seems to me that he wrote a new letter from Leliana, rather than using the cut content... or am I wrong?

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Lucy_Glitter wrote...

How did he manage it? You can't mod Awakening or so I heard.


AFAICT, every Awakening "mod" to date is just stuff in the form of "put this in your override folder". 

However, to make DAzips, that will mod Awakening (and can be installed/uninstalled by ModManager without manually touching the override folder etc.), they need to update the Toolset. 

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Anyway, to reiterate, I think the presence of the private who you can always ask if there are new letters for you (and yet she rarely ever has any or just gives you quests) is that at one point I suspect this was going to be a larger portion of the game (i.e. you getting letters from your old companions or maybe other people back over in the Origins portion of Ferelden) but probably underwent "feature cut".