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[InvaderErl]

kraidy1117 wrote...

There not the worst, they are very stupid tho for attempting Genocide on a race tho.

I know, its not like we've ever done anything like that.


Anyway, I'm not totally sympathetic to the Quarians in terms of the whole Geth uprising since I think they did a freaking lot of that to themselves. But we're not dealing with those Quarians anymore. There is a movement starting to rise within the Floatilla that is seeking an end to that conflict.

Modifié par InvaderErl, 27 mars 2010 - 01:37 .

[Internet Kraken]

SirEmilCrane wrote...

Internet Kraken wrote...

SirEmilCrane wrote...
I will agree that the game developers are ridiculously unfair to the quarians, giving them the greater share of failures to stroke shepard's ego. Pisses me off.

See, you hit the nail on the head. This is why I can;t respect the Quarians. They are constantly portrayed throughout the game as weak in order to create situations in which Shepard can be the hero. And while other races are subject to this as well, they are involved in many other places in the game so it doesn't give the impression that they are all weak and pathetic. We often observe these species being productive members of society. The Quarians in comparison are always being oppressed or are isolated. Even when you visit their own home its just to see them divide themselves over political issues. We don't ever see them produce anything of value. I mean, if the Quarians are so great with tech why do we never use technology manufactured by them? Why don't their merc bands ever hire young, naive Quarians to do their tech work for them? I haven't seen a single piece of impressive Quarian technology.

Hopefully this will change in Mass Effect 3. I really don't want to hate the Quarians, but at this point it's just easy to write them off as a weak, incompetent species.

The difference between you and me is that I can find good things in them even in their oppressed state. I respect them because they are still alive despite the galaxy's best efforts.

I guess my problem is that I just can't see these good things at any point in the game. Oh well, I suppose we'll just have to agree to disagree. At least we can understand each other's veiwpoint.

[padaE]

SirEmilCrane wrote...

padaE wrote...

The quarians made a awesome job protecting their fleet but I don't recall reading any major attack on it.
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As I said, the Flottila can make a good job agains pirates and other threats like that, however, agains a more powerful enemy I really can't see them possible winning.

Hundreds of well armed and well crewed ships, that is all
Read the codex if you don't believe me

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I read the codex, but you are just hiding behind numbers. The truly military strengh of the Migrant fleet is if I recall correctly much, much smaller than the total size of the Flotilla.

[kraidy1117]

SirEmilCrane wrote...

kraidy1117 wrote...

There not the worst, they are very stupid tho for attempting Genocide on a race tho.

Depends on the species
Killing Krogan fine *cough*Salarians*cough*
But how dare they try and kill the geth!!!!
/sarcasm

Hey I feel sorry for the Krogans, but not for the Quarians. It was there own fault. Also it was not genocide what the Salarians did. The Genophage as much as I hate to say it was the best thing to do at the time.

[SirEmilCrane]

InvaderErl wrote...

kraidy1117 wrote...

There not the worst, they are very stupid tho for attempting Genocide on a race tho.

I know, its not like we've ever done anything like that.


Anyway, I'm not totally sympathetic to the Quarians in terms of the whole Geth uprising since I think they did a freaking lot of that to themselves. But we're not dealing with those Quarians anymore. There is a movement starting to rise within the Floatilla that is seeking an end to that conflict.

Pity the movement is lead by Zaal'Korris the wanker
Why does the good Admiral have to have the wrong ideas and the wanker Admiral have to have the good and right ideas?

[InvaderErl]

It says armed ships. For what reason wouldn't you want armed ships on your side? Please try and help me explain why you would turn away willing reinforcements?

[kraidy1117]

InvaderErl wrote...

kraidy1117 wrote...

There not the worst, they are very stupid tho for attempting Genocide on a race tho.

I know, its not like we've ever done anything like that.


Anyway, I'm not totally sympathetic to the Quarians in terms of the whole Geth uprising since I think they did a freaking lot of that to themselves. But we're not dealing with those Quarians anymore. There is a movement starting to rise within the Floatilla that is seeking an end to that conflict.

One wants to enslave them again
One wants to kill them all
One wants peace

Pick your side

[InvaderErl]

SirEmilCrane wrote...


Pity the movement is lead by Zaal'Korris the wanker
Why does the good Admiral have to have the wrong ideas and the wanker Admiral have to have the good and right ideas?

He sees too much Orlesian influence among the Geth.

Modifié par InvaderErl, 27 mars 2010 - 01:41 .

[SirEmilCrane]

padaE wrote...

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I read the codex, but you are just hiding behind numbers. The truly military strengh of the Migrant fleet is if I recall correctly much, much smaller than the total size of the Flotilla.

FFS, hundreds of ships is hundreds of ships, no matter how many they protect
Hundreds of warships and thoudands of armed merchantmen
I fail to see the issue here

[kraidy1117]

InvaderErl wrote...

SirEmilCrane wrote...


Pity the movement is lead by Zaal'Korris the wanker
Why does the good Admiral have to have the wrong ideas and the wanker Admiral have to have the good and right ideas?

He seems too much Orlesian influence among the Geth.

"Tis cold in my suit all alone.

[InvaderErl]

kraidy1117 wrote...

InvaderErl wrote...

SirEmilCrane wrote...


Pity the movement is lead by Zaal'Korris the wanker
Why does the good Admiral have to have the wrong ideas and the wanker Admiral have to have the good and right ideas?

He seems too much Orlesian influence among the Geth.

"Tis cold in my suit all alone.

That evil Claudia Black.

That evil, sexy Claudi-

Uh yeah. Heh.

[SirEmilCrane]

kraidy1117 wrote...

SirEmilCrane wrote...

kraidy1117 wrote...

There not the worst, they are very stupid tho for attempting Genocide on a race tho.

Depends on the species
Killing Krogan fine *cough*Salarians*cough*
But how dare they try and kill the geth!!!!
/sarcasm

Hey I feel sorry for the Krogans, but not for the Quarians. It was there own fault. Also it was not genocide what the Salarians did. The Genophage as much as I hate to say it was the best thing to do at the time.

Quarians saw trying to remove the geth as the best thing to do at the time as well. But that is the past, they paid for their mistakes.

Han'Gerrel is still a much cooler guy than Zaal'Korris

[InvaderErl]

Shandepared wrote...

kraidy1117 wrote...


"Tis cold in my suit all alone.

When Admiral Xen sent me that email I realized I'd found my soul-mate.

Yeah she was totally trying to play hard to get but we all know what was really happening.

[kraidy1117]

SirEmilCrane wrote...

kraidy1117 wrote...

SirEmilCrane wrote...

kraidy1117 wrote...

There not the worst, they are very stupid tho for attempting Genocide on a race tho.

Depends on the species
Killing Krogan fine *cough*Salarians*cough*
But how dare they try and kill the geth!!!!
/sarcasm

Hey I feel sorry for the Krogans, but not for the Quarians. It was there own fault. Also it was not genocide what the Salarians did. The Genophage as much as I hate to say it was the best thing to do at the time.

Quarians saw trying to remove the geth as the best thing to do at the time as well. But that is the past, they paid for their mistakes.

Han'Gerrel is still a much cooler guy than Zaal'Korris

Han'Gerrel is cooler because of his voice, but he is going to lead them to there destruction.

[Internet Kraken]

Shandepared wrote...

kraidy1117 wrote...





"Tis cold in my suit all alone.

When Admiral Xen sent me that email I realized I'd found my soul-mate. {smilie}

I always found it odd that she sends that email regardless of what you do at the trial. She herself said it was going to be nearly impossible to continue Rael's work because of what I did, yet I got the same email with her gloating about finding the research.

[SirEmilCrane]

kraidy1117 wrote...


Han'Gerrel is cooler because of his voice, but he is going to lead them to there destruction.

He was also a nicer person
I get the feeling he can be convinced to change view points
Xen, not so much

Gerrel will not do a loghain and abandon us in our time of need, and I'm not sleeping with Xen to stop the reapers (on second thought...)

[InvaderErl]

kraidy1117 wrote...

SirEmilCrane wrote...

kraidy1117
wrote...

SirEmilCrane wrote...

kraidy1117
wrote...

There not the worst, they are very stupid tho for
attempting Genocide on a race tho.

Depends on the
species
Killing Krogan fine *cough*Salarians*cough*
But how dare
they try and kill the geth!!!!
/sarcasm

Hey I
feel sorry for the Krogans, but not for the Quarians. It was there own
fault. Also it was not genocide what the Salarians did. The Genophage as
much as I hate to say it was the best thing to do at the time.

Quarians
saw trying to remove the geth as the best thing to do at the time as
well. But that is the past, they paid for their mistakes.

Han'Gerrel
is still a much cooler guy than Zaal'Korris

Han'Gerrel
is cooler because of his voice, but he is going to lead them to there
destruction.

Probably by abandoning the Admiralty board during battle.

Modifié par InvaderErl, 27 mars 2010 - 01:48 .

[kraidy1117]

InvaderErl wrote...

kraidy1117 wrote...

SirEmilCrane wrote...

kraidy1117
wrote...

SirEmilCrane wrote...

kraidy1117
wrote...

There not the worst, they are very stupid tho for
attempting Genocide on a race tho.

Depends on the
species
Killing Krogan fine *cough*Salarians*cough*
But how dare
they try and kill the geth!!!!
/sarcasm

Hey I
feel sorry for the Krogans, but not for the Quarians. It was there own
fault. Also it was not genocide what the Salarians did. The Genophage as
much as I hate to say it was the best thing to do at the time.

Quarians
saw trying to remove the geth as the best thing to do at the time as
well. But that is the past, they paid for their mistakes.

Han'Gerrel
is still a much cooler guy than Zaal'Korris

Han'Gerrel
is cooler because of his voice, but he is going to lead them to there
destruction.

Probably by abandoning the Admiralty board during battle.

Sound....The retreat.

[padaE]

SirEmilCrane wrote...

padaE wrote...

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I read the codex, but you are just hiding behind numbers. The truly military strengh of the Migrant fleet is if I recall correctly much, much smaller than the total size of the Flotilla.

FFS, hundreds of ships is hundreds of ships, no matter how many they protect
Hundreds of warships and thoudands of armed merchantmen
I fail to see the issue here

.
There is no problem, just the fact that the Flotilla would be no match for a truly military fleet. Or you think otherwise? I can't see a reason to do so. Fleets from other races should be bigger than the military part of the Migrant fleet, also more advanced and with more powerful weapons. The civilians ships wouldn't be able to stand fire from a dreadnought...
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I think the flotilla would be like Carthage in it's final siege by the romans. All people willing to fight, because if they lose it's the end of everything, however, it woundn't matter, as I didn't for carthage. 

[SirEmilCrane]

Shandepared wrote...

Internet Kraken wrote...

I always found it odd that she sends that email regardless of what you do at the trial. She herself said it was going to be nearly impossible to continue Rael's work because of what I did, yet I got the same email with her gloating about finding the research.

I've never turned the evidence in. I thought she only sent you that email if you kept the research secret. It kind of annoys me that I can reveal the truth to Han Gerel but when I try to talk to Xen I get blocked by Tali. She earned a black-mark on her record for that one.

What heppens if you tell Han the truth?

BTW: am I the only one who liked Han'Gerrel?

[kraidy1117]

SirEmilCrane wrote...

Shandepared wrote...

Internet Kraken wrote...

I always found it odd that she sends that email regardless of what you do at the trial. She herself said it was going to be nearly impossible to continue Rael's work because of what I did, yet I got the same email with her gloating about finding the research.

I've never turned the evidence in. I thought she only sent you that email if you kept the research secret. It kind of annoys me that I can reveal the truth to Han Gerel but when I try to talk to Xen I get blocked by Tali. She earned a black-mark on her record for that one.

What heppens if you tell Han the truth?

BTW: am I the only one who liked Han'Gerrel?

If you give the evdence to the board he gets very pissed off.

and no your not, he was cool, I only liked Korris because of his ship name.

Modifié par kraidy1117, 27 mars 2010 - 01:52 .

[SirEmilCrane]

kraidy1117 wrote...

SirEmilCrane wrote...

Shandepared wrote...

Internet Kraken wrote...

I always found it odd that she sends that email regardless of what you do at the trial. She herself said it was going to be nearly impossible to continue Rael's work because of what I did, yet I got the same email with her gloating about finding the research.

I've never turned the evidence in. I thought she only sent you that email if you kept the research secret. It kind of annoys me that I can reveal the truth to Han Gerel but when I try to talk to Xen I get blocked by Tali. She earned a black-mark on her record for that one.

What heppens if you tell Han the truth?

BTW: am I the only one who liked Han'Gerrel?

If you give the evdence to the board he gets very pissed off.

No I mean after the trial, you can tell him the truth

[kraidy1117]

SirEmilCrane wrote...

kraidy1117 wrote...

SirEmilCrane wrote...

Shandepared wrote...

Internet Kraken wrote...

I always found it odd that she sends that email regardless of what you do at the trial. She herself said it was going to be nearly impossible to continue Rael's work because of what I did, yet I got the same email with her gloating about finding the research.

I've never turned the evidence in. I thought she only sent you that email if you kept the research secret. It kind of annoys me that I can reveal the truth to Han Gerel but when I try to talk to Xen I get blocked by Tali. She earned a black-mark on her record for that one.

What heppens if you tell Han the truth?

BTW: am I the only one who liked Han'Gerrel?

If you give the evdence to the board he gets very pissed off.

No I mean after the trial, you can tell him the truth

He says it was a good idea Sheard did not show it because it would have destoryed the ideas for the Geth war.