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[mrhateful]

I've been wanting to write this post for a long time and now i feel it is time when the expansion has been released.

let me just start out by saying i love dragon age. That is i love everything about it execpt the last phase(from when you march to war), At first i was unsure why i didn't like this particular place but then it struk me it was boring and it was boring because the Darkspawn is not really a threatning enemy i mean through out the game we had already faced all the types of darkspawn there is so when i came to the last main event everything was tried.

Now i tried Awakening of Zehir and as you can hear on the title it was pretty bad, i mean so much wasted potential. They could have done so much but instead they keep doing that stupid Dark spawn story, however it wasn't a complete waste since they did realize that the enemy had to speak in order to become intimidating and yes the mother was probably the coolest boss ever created, however story was lacking and it was short really really short..

The reason why i believe Dragon Age 2 could probably be the best RPG game ever and even surpase Baldurs gate 2 is because if they turn their attention to a better main enemy that has true power and itsn't a one trick pony, i mean the first time i played DA i really thought this was going to be the greatest game ever however i got disapointed when i had recruited everyone so disapointed in fact that i believe NWN2 is still better than DA.
However looking back on the history of Bioware we see that it is commen for game 1 to be good but not perfectional great like game nr 2. So i think that if bioware learn from their mistakes DA2 could in fact be the greatest. Also looking on the codex of the game their is so many better enemies.. the tewinter imperium being just one of them.. Or a boss stationed in the black city and the game was about reaching that city.

One of the best thing about NWN2 is that the main boss is clouded in story, so that it becomes really really interresting while the Archdemon is just a dragon with barely any interresting lore.

Modifié par mrhateful, 26 mars 2010 - 03:32 .

[Burglekut]

No one cares about your rant. Half of your post isn't even on topic and should be removed from here.

[mrhateful]

Burglekut wrote...

No one cares about your rant. Half of your post isn't even on topic and should be removed from here.

Please go back to your storyless mario game and stop bringing utter garbage to this forum

EDIT: Actually forget that i just checked your other posts and it turns out your a troll so no more food for you

Modifié par mrhateful, 26 mars 2010 - 02:59 .

[Challseus]

While more enemy variation would have been good, I don't see Dragon Age as a failure.

[mrhateful]

Challseus wrote...

While more enemy variation would have been good, I don't see Dragon Age as a failure.

failure is relative

it failed if it aspired to become the greatest RPG ever and a spiriual succesor of Baldurs gate 2..

it succesed if it aspired to be a good game

Modifié par mrhateful, 26 mars 2010 - 03:03 .

[Goth Skunk]

ITT, OP attempts at trolling, fails miserably.

OP is a tool and should be ignored.

Everything OP knows and says is wrong.

[mrhateful]

Goth Skunk wrote...

ITT, OP attempts at trolling, fails miserably.
OP is a tool and should be ignored.
Everything OP knows and says is wrong.

such as... you can't just say im wrong and trolling without given any examples to where i may have said something that is not entirely true, otherwise it might look that you are trolling ^^

[GuerrilaMaster]

Awakening of Zehir?

You mean Awakening or Storm of Zehir?

[mrhateful]

GuerrilaMaster wrote...

Awakening of Zehir?
You mean Awakening or Storm of Zehir?

/facepalm

it was a joke where i compared Awakening to the worst thing bioware has ever released

[GuerrilaMaster]

mrhateful wrote...

GuerrilaMaster wrote...

Awakening of Zehir?
You mean Awakening or Storm of Zehir?

/facepalm

it was a joke where i compared Awakening to the worst thing bioware has ever released

err... Bioware didn't release SOZ , Obsidian did
Bioware dind't have anything to do with NWN2

[Rzepik2]

mrhateful wrote...

GuerrilaMaster wrote...

Awakening of Zehir?
You mean Awakening or Storm of Zehir?

/facepalm

it was a joke where i compared Awakening to the worst thing bioware has ever released

Bioware has nothing to do with Zehir except the Aurora Engine

failure is relative

it failed if it aspired to become the greatest RPG ever and a spiriual succesor of Baldurs gate 2..

it succesed if it aspired to be a good game

I second that.

Modifié par Rzepik2, 26 mars 2010 - 03:15 .

[mrhateful]

GuerrilaMaster wrote...

mrhateful wrote...

GuerrilaMaster wrote...

Awakening of Zehir?
You mean Awakening or Storm of Zehir?

/facepalm

it was a joke where i compared Awakening to the worst thing bioware has ever released

err... Bioware didn't release SOZ , Obsidian did
Bioware dind't have anything to do with NWN2

sorry my mistake.. you are correct

[GuerrilaMaster]

np

[Emma-Lath]

I don't agree with the OP but I don't think he is trolling, his agrument was well thought out and he was just blatantly bashing the game. Now back on topic I also agree that the fights could be a little harder but I don't recall BG2 being that more challenging, however I haven't played that game in years. I also found the last leg of the game to be quite fun and I found it to be very exciting so I completely disgaree with you one that point

[Daerog]

Some of your sentences in the OP hurt my mind while I tried to read them. "One of the best thing about NWN2 is that the main boss is coulded in story that it becomes really really interresting while the Archdemon is just a dragon why barely any interresting lore." Could fix that sentence a bit.

Dragon Age was a great game, and for it being the first in a franchise, well done. However, it had plenty of faults. So many faults that a well done sequel could easily surpass it in quality. I look forward to Dragon Age 2, and hope it bulks up with content/quality and not a watered down story/game to just make money. Making money is a priority, but I do hope BioWare doesn't lose their promise of good stories in games.

Side note: I have yet to play Baldur's Gate, I hope all this praise for it isn't just nostalgia or w/e because all this talk about it makes me want to try it out.

[DMTyrisis]

DaerogTheDhampir wrote...I have yet to play Baldur's Gate, I hope all this praise for it isn't just nostalgia or w/e because all this talk about it makes me want to try it out.

I never played BG 1 or 2 either, but I have two friends that absolutely swear it was the best video game ever made.  The problem with playing it today is the graphics are so poor compared to modern games.  I want to play NWNs again, but the even the graphics on that are ten years old.  I am very aesthetic, so it is hard for me to get passed these things.

[mrhateful]

DaerogTheDhampir wrote...

Some of your sentences in the OP hurt my mind while I tried to read them. "One of the best thing about NWN2 is that the main boss is coulded in story that it becomes really really interresting while the Archdemon is just a dragon why barely any interresting lore." Could fix that sentence a bit.

Fixed it was a slip of the mind

DaerogTheDhampir wrote...
Side note: I have yet to play Baldur's Gate, I hope all this praise for it isn't just nostalgia or w/e because all this talk about it makes me want to try it out.

I still play it to this day there is no nostalgia about it since i actually didn't play it for real since after i had completed both NWN2 and Mask of the betrayer.

PS. im only 20 so i wasn't old enough to play baldurs gate when it first was released

[mrhateful]

DMTyrisis wrote...

DaerogTheDhampir wrote...I have yet to play Baldur's Gate, I hope all this praise for it isn't just nostalgia or w/e because all this talk about it makes me want to try it out.

I never played BG 1 or 2 either, but I have two friends that absolutely swear it was the best video game ever made.  The problem with playing it today is the graphics are so poor compared to modern games.  I want to play NWNs again, but the even the graphics on that are ten years old.  I am very aesthetic, so it is hard for me to get passed these things.

tbh i think BG2 looks better than NWN1

Modifié par mrhateful, 26 mars 2010 - 03:37 .

[rabbitchannel]

I'd have to agree. The ending missions were a little boring for me. It's because we knew everything that was going to happen from that start. It was too clear cut. A little deftness and subtlety in the story telling and antagonists could have gone a long way. ME 1 would probably be a good example with **ren as decoy, sudden emergence end game of the ***pers, and the mystery of the Conduit. Aribeth from NWN 1. Maugrim and Morag. The NWN 2 boss... well, we didn't really know much about him and he wasn't built up enough to instill fear or danger for me. When it comes to building up a protagonist, I'd probably reference Malak.

[danielkx]

DaerogTheDhampir wrote...

Side note: I have yet to play Baldur's Gate, I hope all this praise for it isn't just nostalgia or w/e because all this talk about it makes me want to try it out.

What makes BG 1 and 2 so hard for me to play today is the horrific DnD 2nd edition ruleset... primarily the combat system. I cannot stand it at all and it prevents me from playing it right now. I tried playing BG2 a month before DA was released. After an hour I couldn't take it because of the combat rules.

I am not a fan of DnD in general, but it would be awesome if the game at least used the D20 system instead of thac0.

That said, DA disappointed for me for two reason; 1) I had absurdly high expectations that could almost never have been reached, 2) Even without the high expectations, when replaying the game, it just wasn't fun. For me it was the atmosphere and the feeling of constant war that took away from the game. In BG and kotor, and even Jade Empire (which had terrible combat system), you were on a journey/adventure trying to figure something out (JE had less of this than BG and kotor). In DA you are at war, you are going to towns/cities trying to recruit for the big battle. That isn't fun for me. 

If DA wasn't about the darkspawn and archdemon it would have been better. Basically, take the combat system/rules and all of the other things about the game (except for a few annoying things) and have a completely different story and setting. That is asking a lot and I doubt a sequel will be anything like that.

Most likely the sequel will be highly related to DA and will once again be about darkspawn. Going into towns that have been devistated by the darkspawn leaves the towns lifeless and dull. Nothing interesting or fun about that.

It was still a good game, but nowhere near the top of the list for best game ever or best rpg ever.

[Haexpane]

Burglekut wrote...

No one cares about your rant. Half of your post isn't even on topic and should be removed from here.

QFT

The OP's rant isn't even on his own topic.

[Haexpane]

mrhateful wrote...

GuerrilaMaster wrote...

Awakening of Zehir?
You mean Awakening or Storm of Zehir?

/facepalm

it was a joke where i compared Awakening to the worst thing bioware has ever released

Wrong, jokes are funny. Yours was simply trolling

[Gill Kaiser]

mrhateful wrote...

GuerrilaMaster wrote...

Awakening of Zehir?
You mean Awakening or Storm of Zehir?

/facepalm

it was a joke where i compared Awakening to the worst thing bioware has ever released

Well, any credibility you might have had just got defenestrated.

Modifié par Gill Kaiser, 26 mars 2010 - 07:47 .

[Haexpane]

danielkx wrote...

DaerogTheDhampir wrote...

Side note: I have yet to play Baldur's Gate, I hope all this praise for it isn't just nostalgia or w/e because all this talk about it makes me want to try it out.

What makes BG 1 and 2 so hard for me to play today is the horrific DnD 2nd edition ruleset... primarily the combat system. I cannot stand it at all and it prevents me from playing it right now. I tried playing BG2 a month before DA was released. After an hour I couldn't take it because of the combat rules.

I am not a fan of DnD in general, but it would be awesome if the game at least used the D20 system instead of thac0.

That said, DA disappointed for me for two reason; 1) I had absurdly high expectations that could almost never have been reached, 2) Even without the high expectations, when replaying the game, it just wasn't fun. For me it was the atmosphere and the feeling of constant war that took away from the game. In BG and kotor, and even Jade Empire (which had terrible combat system), you were on a journey/adventure trying to figure something out (JE had less of this than BG and kotor). In DA you are at war, you are going to towns/cities trying to recruit for the big battle. That isn't fun for me. 

If DA wasn't about the darkspawn and archdemon it would have been better. Basically, take the combat system/rules and all of the other things about the game (except for a few annoying things) and have a completely different story and setting. That is asking a lot and I doubt a sequel will be anything like that.

Most likely the sequel will be highly related to DA and will once again be about darkspawn. Going into towns that have been devistated by the darkspawn leaves the towns lifeless and dull. Nothing interesting or fun about that.

It was still a good game, but nowhere near the top of the list for best game ever or best rpg ever.

ROFL I love how he calls every great BW game "terrible" and they all have "Terrible combat systems"  ummm you are in the vast minority with those opinions.

While Jade EMpire/KOTOR and DA are indeed too easy, to call their combat systems "terrible" is simply hatin

[Obtusifolius]

Haexpane wrote...

Wrong, jokes are funny. Yours was simply trolling

Do you know the meaning of the word 'trolling'? People use the word far too much these days.

Hint: It doesn't mean the saying of something with which you disagree.