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Stabbath123

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Ok. So it's ok to show multiple boobs on the mother who looks like Marilyn Manson, and show beheadings in this game, but Morrigan who goes around braless decides to put one on when we have sex? Posted Image

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Stabbath123 wrote...

Ok. So it's ok to show multiple boobs on the mother who looks like Marilyn Manson, and show beheadings in this game, but Morrigan who goes around braless decides to put one on when we have sex? Posted Image


:lol: good point, there. For some reason it's okay for hideous monsters to have exposed breasts, as long as you aren't having sex with them.

I just wanted to add, in my first Awakening playthrough I called my husband over to check out the Broodmother and he said  "Your final boss is Marilyn Manson?"

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Morrigan always had a bra on, WTF do you think those straps are for in the middle of her chest?

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Stabbath123 wrote...

Ok. So it's ok to show multiple boobs on the mother who looks like Marilyn Manson


Bwah!

challenger18 wrote...

Morrigan always had a bra on, WTF do you think those straps are for in the middle of her chest?


Funny how it changes to a different bra when she takes off her top, though!

And BioWare must have had the US market in mind: here, the most grotesque violence is A-OK, but show a nipple and suddenly the Republic is in danger of collapse!

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Yea very true I thought that was kinda odd myself, its like watching a pg 13 movie when they have a love scene, the girl is sitting on the blanket with her cloths on but somehow they managed to get pregnant.

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i think those string things she had on in her robe, were to keep her "shirt" in place, so as to keep her boobs from flopping around in battle.

whatever they were , it wasnt a proper bra

i get the US market comment...but the witcher did the same thing on release here, but then they let go an OPTIONAL update.

and they dont show only boobs..:innocent:

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Stabbath123 wrote...

Ok. So it's ok to show multiple boobs on the mother who looks like Marilyn Manson, and show beheadings in this game, but Morrigan who goes around braless decides to put one on when we have sex? Posted Image

 ROFL. I know right? It's not even about "ZOMG let's have teh bewbs!", it's more about going with the flow of the sex scenes and being realistic.


JosieJ wrote...

And BioWare must have had the US market
in mind: here, the most grotesque violence is A-OK, but show a nipple
and suddenly the Republic is in danger of collapse!


That's the problem with the ESRB in the U.S. here.Apparently it's OK to watch alot of violence but it's not OK to show the naked human body in a tasteful manner UNLESS it's blown to bits?:blink:But it's understandable that gaming companies have to watch themselves lest they get sued by some irate parent who bought a M rated game for their 12 year old (which is BS!).And then they blame the game companies when it's the parents' own fault.
IMO, if we're 18+ and we buy a game that is rated M, we should be able to see nudity if it's part of the game.

And the message we're getting: Sex is bad. Violence is good.
Pffht! :whistle:

Modifié par Alyka, 27 mars 2010 - 12:12 .


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challenger18 wrote...

Morrigan always had a bra on, WTF do you think those straps are for in the middle of her chest?


I saw a line in the middle of her chest. Got a new graphics card and it went away.

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Alyka wrote...

Stabbath123 wrote...

Ok. So it's ok to show multiple boobs on the mother who looks like Marilyn Manson, and show beheadings in this game, but Morrigan who goes around braless decides to put one on when we have sex? Posted Image

 ROFL. I know right? It's not even about "ZOMG let's have teh bewbs!", it's more about going with the flow of the sex scenes and being realistic.


JosieJ wrote...

And BioWare must have had the US market
in mind: here, the most grotesque violence is A-OK, but show a nipple
and suddenly the Republic is in danger of collapse!


That's the problem with the ESRB in the U.S. here.Apparently it's OK to watch alot of violence but it's not OK to show the naked human body in a tasteful manner UNLESS it's blown to bits?:blink:But it's understandable that gaming companies have to watch themselves lest they get sued by some irate parent who bought a M rated game for their 12 year old (which is BS!).And then they blame the game companies when it's the parents' own fault.
IMO, if we're 18+ and we buy a game that is rated M, we should be able to see nudity if it's part of the game.

And the message we're getting: Sex is bad. Violence is good.
Pffht! :whistle:


Its inconsistent.  The God of War games show rampant nudity.  As did Conan.

This decision was kind of confusing, ALTHOUGH the scene is quite gratuitous (and ridiculous considering they are wearing Underwear)

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They should have Oghren naked. With his rash.

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Watch "This Film Has Not Yet Been Rated." It's not ESRB, but there's some similarities.



Apparently it's not only "violence good; sex bad" but it's also "male superior good; female orgasms bad." There's some really weird rating trends.

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Stabbath123 wrote...

They should have Oghren naked. With his rash.


  I was switching armor on him to see what had the better stats and I looked up to see him in his small clothes......


         I'm still having nightmares!!!!!!!Posted Image

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Out of all the 18+ games (UK ratings) I own, I can say with certainty that Dragon Age is the only one that doesn't warrant it. I'm not complaining or anything, I'm just baffled as to why this got slapped with an 18+. Mass Effect had more nudity, that has a 12+ certificate over here. I've heard worse swearing on daytime television, and the violence is a 15+ AT BEST.

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Drake Sigar wrote...

Out of all the 18+ games (UK ratings) I own, I can say with certainty that Dragon Age is the only one that doesn't warrant it. I'm not complaining or anything, I'm just baffled as to why this got slapped with an 18+. Mass Effect had more nudity, that has a 12+ certificate over here. I've heard worse swearing on daytime television, and the violence is a 15+ AT BEST.


Bioware was saying that they were making an M rated/18+/whatever game for years before release. It was something of a self-fulfilling prophecy. That said, there's a few scenes in it that I can see earning it an M rating in the US. I don't know about Europe.

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Onyx Jaguar wrote...


Its inconsistent.  The God of War games show rampant nudity.  As did Conan.

This decision was kind of confusing, ALTHOUGH the scene is quite gratuitous (and ridiculous considering they are wearing Underwear)


Well, for whatever reason, Fox News didn't run a special on those developers for pedaling pornography like they did for Mass Effect when Bioware let anyone who was supposed to be over the age of 17 see half of a boob in a seven second sex scene.  

Let's be honest though, if parents aren't willing to buy their 13-16 year old sons "mature" rated video games, video game developers, Bioware not excluded, are going to lose money.  So covering up Morrigan's chest with a nanny bra during her sex scene was simply good business practice.  Any publicity might be good publicity for hollywood, but if your story driven RPG-Shooter is getting flack from the number one news station in the US for being sexual, you'd probably rather prefer no publicity at all.

The inconsistency, as others have already said, is that in America it is perfectly ok for teenagers to see heads exploding in slow motion, but remind a teenage boy that the female body can be sexual and you've committed an act against God and the State.  The other inconsistency that the people who work and watch Fox don't ever address is that the average age for teenagers to lose their virginity in public high schools nowadays is probably under 17.  So your kids are having sex but they aren't allowed to see half of an alien boob.

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Hmmm, perhaps we should remind some parents how easy it is to download adult mods such as Natural Bodies and Luchaire's Better Sex Scenes. Nahh! Let 'em find out for themselves. Personally, I'd far rather my child see a tastefully done sex scene than all the beheadings and gore, but that's just me. And, I can say that since I don't have any children and am only speaking hypothetically.

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The mother is the most unattractive thing I have ever seen. I guess that makes them aloud to show them, lol.

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Syione wrote...

Stabbath123 wrote...

They should have Oghren naked. With his rash.


  I was switching armor on him to see what had the better stats and I looked up to see him in his small clothes......


         I'm still having nightmares!!!!!!!Posted Image



lol. I've never done that. Need to, bet it's funny.

Modifié par Stabbath123, 28 mars 2010 - 08:09 .


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I've also been wondering. Taint not transmittable via sex? Sorry, didn't want to make a new thread about this.

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I found this also odd

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I always thought she was being modest since they were right next to the fire. I mean Alistar still has his V card, he might explode from a nipslip.

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Stabbath123 wrote...

Ok. So it's ok to show multiple boobs on the mother who looks like Marilyn Manson, and show beheadings in this game, but Morrigan who goes around braless decides to put one on when we have sex? Posted Image


Yep! Too strange to comprehend.  Maybe we'll get some clarification from the uppers on this train of reasoning.  I say:  if it's labeled MA, and we're all aware, then there shouldn't be any ridiculous censorship that just leaves us asking questions like these down the road.  But I do think it would be funny to see the Mother strapped up with 8 sets of  peach w/black trim bras ranging in size from 34c to 186EEEEEEEEEEEEE. :o

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What comedian was it? Said something like, "Parents want to keep their children away from bewbies. Bewbs were made for children!". Well, maybe it was meant for babies lol. But if they can handle it, I'm sure children can too:)




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Drake Sigar wrote...

Out of all the 18+ games (UK ratings) I own, I can say with certainty that Dragon Age is the only one that doesn't warrant it. I'm not complaining or anything, I'm just baffled as to why this got slapped with an 18+. Mass Effect had more nudity, that has a 12+ certificate over here. I've heard worse swearing on daytime television, and the violence is a 15+ AT BEST.

It would have been because of all the blood and possibly some of the darker themes like the broodmother reproduction and rape of city elves.